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		<title>By: jj</title>
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		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 03:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the author of this post needs to go check out dazzlemethis.wordpress.com it completely destroys all her points. This girl went through the twilight book chapter by chapter and it is hilarious.</description>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 05:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jarta, I  agree with you everyone has their own personal tastes. I know for me , and I think others do feel this way based on what I&#039;ve read here and in other places-the concern is what age group is reading this and how it may affect them. I just do not want young girls (and boys if they are reading it) to thing having a controlling boy/girlfriend is OK. Even if in these novels there are times that Bella truely needs protection, I am concerned a young audiance will  not understand the difference ,and merely thing all controlling behavior is an appropriate display of affection. I am concerend many parents are letting their children read this, even though it is meant for young adults-to me that would be 17 and up. And that is what scares me, that nobody is looking out for these kids. 

One could argue there is worse stuff on television. I agree not eveything aimed at children is actually appropriate. But that is another topic. This is about Twilight.

If you  had chosen to read it because you are into that sort of male behavior, that is fine. I do not know how old you are, but you sound mature.

 I myself actually hate romance novels because all the ones I have tried have shown helpless (usually innocent virgin)women who get swept up by these arrogant , bossy men. That does not turn me on, that actually disgusts me and I hate men like that.I pefer a man to view me as an equal and treat me with respect. And not sexually harass me like guy in the last one i tried was doing. But that is me. 

Basically, I&quot;m just responding because I found your post amusing, I mean I never thought that there may be a demographic like yourself  who would read Twilight for the purpose someone like me hates it for.  Lol, I enjoy a little kink  and domination in the bedroom, but that is just play. I would never date someone like Edward.

But your post had an interesting view. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jarta, I  agree with you everyone has their own personal tastes. I know for me , and I think others do feel this way based on what I&#8217;ve read here and in other places-the concern is what age group is reading this and how it may affect them. I just do not want young girls (and boys if they are reading it) to thing having a controlling boy/girlfriend is OK. Even if in these novels there are times that Bella truely needs protection, I am concerned a young audiance will  not understand the difference ,and merely thing all controlling behavior is an appropriate display of affection. I am concerend many parents are letting their children read this, even though it is meant for young adults-to me that would be 17 and up. And that is what scares me, that nobody is looking out for these kids. </p>
<p>One could argue there is worse stuff on television. I agree not eveything aimed at children is actually appropriate. But that is another topic. This is about Twilight.</p>
<p>If you  had chosen to read it because you are into that sort of male behavior, that is fine. I do not know how old you are, but you sound mature.</p>
<p> I myself actually hate romance novels because all the ones I have tried have shown helpless (usually innocent virgin)women who get swept up by these arrogant , bossy men. That does not turn me on, that actually disgusts me and I hate men like that.I pefer a man to view me as an equal and treat me with respect. And not sexually harass me like guy in the last one i tried was doing. But that is me. </p>
<p>Basically, I&#8221;m just responding because I found your post amusing, I mean I never thought that there may be a demographic like yourself  who would read Twilight for the purpose someone like me hates it for.  Lol, I enjoy a little kink  and domination in the bedroom, but that is just play. I would never date someone like Edward.</p>
<p>But your post had an interesting view. <img src='http://www.musingsforadarkenedroom.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jarta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Dec 2011 16:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t read Twilight. I didn&#039;t watch the movie either. So I guess I&#039;m one of those people whom you can say has no right to give opinion on this matter. But this discussion/debate have me amused because some issues that anti-twilight fans points out to show the negativity of Twilight would prolly have me panting to read the novel. The controlling, stalkerish behavior, and the age disparity is one of my favorite kinks that I indulge in the darkest pits of various fandoms. So yeah, I googled about it. Read POVs from both it&#039;s fans and haters. And I read some snippets from the novel. I think what really turned me off this novel was Bella&#039;s POV and descriptions of Edwards physical beauty or whatchamacallit. I&#039;m used on various physical descriptions writers used to make their characters attractive. I&#039;m also most especially used to Romance genre which I love to mock on but is secretly addicted on. 90% of what I read are romance/smut. Anyway the point I&#039;m getting at is with the tiny snippet of  Twilight I&#039;ve read, &quot;Edward-through-Bella&#039;s-Eyes&quot; kinda creeps me out. And believe me, it takes a lot to creep me out in a negative way. Because I get creep out a lot by stories I read but still loves them. But with this novel.... I just can&#039;t stand Bella&#039;s POV. 
You can&#039;t fault me not to gather enough will to read the whole novel, when the writing style clearly disagrees with me. While I can enjoy angst, tragedy and other various dark fics, I am not masochistic enough to read it. I actually applaud the effort of some Anti-Twilighters to read the whole series just to debunk it. 
To both fans and haters, people do have their own preferences. And as much as I don&#039;t really get any kind of haters(I have the motto &quot;Don&#039;t like, Don&#039;t Bother, Move On&quot; and Fads rarely influences me), I still find the Anti-Twilight more amusing and witty than the fans and because of this I still sometimes find myself googling this kind of topics just for amusement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read Twilight. I didn&#8217;t watch the movie either. So I guess I&#8217;m one of those people whom you can say has no right to give opinion on this matter. But this discussion/debate have me amused because some issues that anti-twilight fans points out to show the negativity of Twilight would prolly have me panting to read the novel. The controlling, stalkerish behavior, and the age disparity is one of my favorite kinks that I indulge in the darkest pits of various fandoms. So yeah, I googled about it. Read POVs from both it&#8217;s fans and haters. And I read some snippets from the novel. I think what really turned me off this novel was Bella&#8217;s POV and descriptions of Edwards physical beauty or whatchamacallit. I&#8217;m used on various physical descriptions writers used to make their characters attractive. I&#8217;m also most especially used to Romance genre which I love to mock on but is secretly addicted on. 90% of what I read are romance/smut. Anyway the point I&#8217;m getting at is with the tiny snippet of  Twilight I&#8217;ve read, &#8220;Edward-through-Bella&#8217;s-Eyes&#8221; kinda creeps me out. And believe me, it takes a lot to creep me out in a negative way. Because I get creep out a lot by stories I read but still loves them. But with this novel&#8230;. I just can&#8217;t stand Bella&#8217;s POV.<br />
You can&#8217;t fault me not to gather enough will to read the whole novel, when the writing style clearly disagrees with me. While I can enjoy angst, tragedy and other various dark fics, I am not masochistic enough to read it. I actually applaud the effort of some Anti-Twilighters to read the whole series just to debunk it.<br />
To both fans and haters, people do have their own preferences. And as much as I don&#8217;t really get any kind of haters(I have the motto &#8220;Don&#8217;t like, Don&#8217;t Bother, Move On&#8221; and Fads rarely influences me), I still find the Anti-Twilight more amusing and witty than the fans and because of this I still sometimes find myself googling this kind of topics just for amusement.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize how the post came out with the long lines of text. I had spaces when I wrote it in WORD but pasting screwed it up. &gt;_&lt;</description>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator>E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was really hoping these blog would have valid arguments. The writing style is mature for the most part –far from the horribly spelled tween fangirl whining you usually see. I particularly wanted to read your argument against Edward being controlling, so I skipped down to that part. I was very disappointed in that you only seemed to rationalize what most people on here understand to be abuse, pure and simply. 
I do believe you make valid points in some cases that Edward was trying to protect Bella (she is human after all) but so many people on here have cited specific examples of him being controlling , and stressing the fact that abuse IS abuse, no matter how the abuser or abused looks at it. Same goes for the stalking, stalking IS stalking no matter if the person doing it realizes it (if he doesn’t he needs therapy to realize his own harmful behavior.)Stalking is a sign of obsession and obsession can lead to violence. And stalking is stalking even if the person being stalked it ok with it-thinking it is harmless perhaps. THESE are situations where someone-a trusted adult and or friend needs to step in and do what’s best for the victim-if they cannot see the danger themselves. 
Honestly, I am deeply disturbed and alarmed you are ok with stalking behavior and –unless I read your posts on it incorrectly-and  are ok with it in your own life. A person should never be stalked or controlled-being in a relationship does NOT justify this behavior. These are reasons to leave a relationship.  Even in relationships it is vitally important to maintain individuality-a sense of self. We all were single at some point-you do not need someone bossing you around to be whole. I believe Bella suffers from some sort of brainwashing/severe infatuation with Edward that makes her incapable of doing what’s best for her. She and Edward both need therapy for their own reasons. 
Next, I am completely serious in this-it is in no way meant to offend you, I am sorry if it does. You probably do not want to hear it, but I am concerned that perhaps you yourself are in an abusive relationship-or were when you wrote this. And you are not seeing it. This to me can be the only reason you rationalize such behavior (the stalking and controlling nature of Edward) as acceptable (in most cases, I know you did agree some were not). And you mentioned a friend of yours married a guy who stalked her I believe? So you have been around others in dangerous relationships which make you see it as “normal”.  Stalking and controlling behaviors are NOT normal, they are NOT ok, and if someone really respected you and cared about you they would NOT do it in the first place, or they would get help once they realized they had a problem.  I do hope you are no longer in such a relationship, but if you are, please love yourself enough to talk to a trusted person and get help to get out!  
Abuse (physical, mental, any of it!) should NOT be romanticized. I wholeheartedly agree with Victor V.  the Twilight serious is NOT good for teens (or tweens). Media (books movies, tv) can influenced a child’s (because tweens are the ones who are reading it the most, despite whatever age group they were written for)perception of the world, and perception of human relationships. And while it is a parent’s job to protect their children from dangerous things, (like teaching their dating aged child the signs of abuse and keeping an eye on them) it sickens me to know in the case of Twilight, so many people like it and eat it up-including parents reading it with their children-seemingly completely oblivious to the bad messages in it. I’ll finish up because I know I am starting to vent a little. 
Frankly, the books should never have been written. Edward knows he is bad for Bella; it should have ended with THAT. If he couldn’t stay away from her, then his family should have made him or he should have moved or something. He is NOT a 17 year old boy; he should NOT have the mentality of such as his brain should still have matured despite being stuck in a youth’s body. It worked in Interview with the Vampire-movie version.( Despite it being my favorite movie, I still have yet to get around to reading the books.)
Also, I cannot fanthom how he has NEVER been in a relationship before , living so long. Meyer needs to explain that one.
Overall, just horribly written books.  It really makes me said to live in the USA  when this stuff becomes popular.  I know you like it, and I am NOT trying to convince you otherwise because I know I can’t. But please think about why you like it and if it reflects your own life at all. It is great you had a friend help you out of your shell, but there is a line between help and harm and Edward has crossed that line.  I really think someone in your life has crossed that line also, I wish you the best and  hope you free yourself of whoever that someone is. Even if you can’t see it now, I just hope you do at some point and are ok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was really hoping these blog would have valid arguments. The writing style is mature for the most part –far from the horribly spelled tween fangirl whining you usually see. I particularly wanted to read your argument against Edward being controlling, so I skipped down to that part. I was very disappointed in that you only seemed to rationalize what most people on here understand to be abuse, pure and simply.<br />
I do believe you make valid points in some cases that Edward was trying to protect Bella (she is human after all) but so many people on here have cited specific examples of him being controlling , and stressing the fact that abuse IS abuse, no matter how the abuser or abused looks at it. Same goes for the stalking, stalking IS stalking no matter if the person doing it realizes it (if he doesn’t he needs therapy to realize his own harmful behavior.)Stalking is a sign of obsession and obsession can lead to violence. And stalking is stalking even if the person being stalked it ok with it-thinking it is harmless perhaps. THESE are situations where someone-a trusted adult and or friend needs to step in and do what’s best for the victim-if they cannot see the danger themselves.<br />
Honestly, I am deeply disturbed and alarmed you are ok with stalking behavior and –unless I read your posts on it incorrectly-and  are ok with it in your own life. A person should never be stalked or controlled-being in a relationship does NOT justify this behavior. These are reasons to leave a relationship.  Even in relationships it is vitally important to maintain individuality-a sense of self. We all were single at some point-you do not need someone bossing you around to be whole. I believe Bella suffers from some sort of brainwashing/severe infatuation with Edward that makes her incapable of doing what’s best for her. She and Edward both need therapy for their own reasons.<br />
Next, I am completely serious in this-it is in no way meant to offend you, I am sorry if it does. You probably do not want to hear it, but I am concerned that perhaps you yourself are in an abusive relationship-or were when you wrote this. And you are not seeing it. This to me can be the only reason you rationalize such behavior (the stalking and controlling nature of Edward) as acceptable (in most cases, I know you did agree some were not). And you mentioned a friend of yours married a guy who stalked her I believe? So you have been around others in dangerous relationships which make you see it as “normal”.  Stalking and controlling behaviors are NOT normal, they are NOT ok, and if someone really respected you and cared about you they would NOT do it in the first place, or they would get help once they realized they had a problem.  I do hope you are no longer in such a relationship, but if you are, please love yourself enough to talk to a trusted person and get help to get out!<br />
Abuse (physical, mental, any of it!) should NOT be romanticized. I wholeheartedly agree with Victor V.  the Twilight serious is NOT good for teens (or tweens). Media (books movies, tv) can influenced a child’s (because tweens are the ones who are reading it the most, despite whatever age group they were written for)perception of the world, and perception of human relationships. And while it is a parent’s job to protect their children from dangerous things, (like teaching their dating aged child the signs of abuse and keeping an eye on them) it sickens me to know in the case of Twilight, so many people like it and eat it up-including parents reading it with their children-seemingly completely oblivious to the bad messages in it. I’ll finish up because I know I am starting to vent a little.<br />
Frankly, the books should never have been written. Edward knows he is bad for Bella; it should have ended with THAT. If he couldn’t stay away from her, then his family should have made him or he should have moved or something. He is NOT a 17 year old boy; he should NOT have the mentality of such as his brain should still have matured despite being stuck in a youth’s body. It worked in Interview with the Vampire-movie version.( Despite it being my favorite movie, I still have yet to get around to reading the books.)<br />
Also, I cannot fanthom how he has NEVER been in a relationship before , living so long. Meyer needs to explain that one.<br />
Overall, just horribly written books.  It really makes me said to live in the USA  when this stuff becomes popular.  I know you like it, and I am NOT trying to convince you otherwise because I know I can’t. But please think about why you like it and if it reflects your own life at all. It is great you had a friend help you out of your shell, but there is a line between help and harm and Edward has crossed that line.  I really think someone in your life has crossed that line also, I wish you the best and  hope you free yourself of whoever that someone is. Even if you can’t see it now, I just hope you do at some point and are ok.</p>
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		<title>By: spon</title>
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		<dc:creator>spon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 03:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fun thesaurus words for vampire parasitic sponge hanger on scrounger. Shall I go on? Saying a vampire can be a vegetarian and the hero is the same as saying a giant mosquito with dimples is the good guy cause he only sucking random forest creatures and cows dry. Plus there are hundreds of years of vamp lore and actions to consider. Just cause someone doesn&#039;t have all the mystical sparkly powers doesn&#039;t mean they can&#039;t perform vilamp actions and be a vamp. Twilight effectively blurred the line of good and evil by giveing a mosquito dimples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fun thesaurus words for vampire parasitic sponge hanger on scrounger. Shall I go on? Saying a vampire can be a vegetarian and the hero is the same as saying a giant mosquito with dimples is the good guy cause he only sucking random forest creatures and cows dry. Plus there are hundreds of years of vamp lore and actions to consider. Just cause someone doesn&#8217;t have all the mystical sparkly powers doesn&#8217;t mean they can&#8217;t perform vilamp actions and be a vamp. Twilight effectively blurred the line of good and evil by giveing a mosquito dimples.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 06:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everything in Twilight is too... perfect. By the end of Breaking Dawn, everyone is paired up with the love of their existence, and they are all immortal and have special powers so they can all be happy FOREVER. And two things about Edward:
1. He watches Bella sleep WITHOUT her permission. Even if this is for non-creepy purposes, he should have gotten her consent before sneaking into her room every night.
2. He`s been watching Bella sleep before he MET her. She`s been in school (having met Edward the first day of said school) for approximately 1 month, when Edward admits to watching her for TWO months. She had only recently moved to Forks, so he actually made the effort to go to ANOTHER TOWN to follow some girl. Was he fascinated by her before he met her? I doubt he just read the Vampy Times and there was a story about Bella Swan-- the amazing Vamp-proof teenager! He had to have stalked her before realizing that she knows Occlumency and can`t have her mind read or attacked or manipulated in any way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everything in Twilight is too&#8230; perfect. By the end of Breaking Dawn, everyone is paired up with the love of their existence, and they are all immortal and have special powers so they can all be happy FOREVER. And two things about Edward:<br />
1. He watches Bella sleep WITHOUT her permission. Even if this is for non-creepy purposes, he should have gotten her consent before sneaking into her room every night.<br />
2. He`s been watching Bella sleep before he MET her. She`s been in school (having met Edward the first day of said school) for approximately 1 month, when Edward admits to watching her for TWO months. She had only recently moved to Forks, so he actually made the effort to go to ANOTHER TOWN to follow some girl. Was he fascinated by her before he met her? I doubt he just read the Vampy Times and there was a story about Bella Swan&#8211; the amazing Vamp-proof teenager! He had to have stalked her before realizing that she knows Occlumency and can`t have her mind read or attacked or manipulated in any way.</p>
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		<title>By: dee</title>
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		<dc:creator>dee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jul 2011 16:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok I love twilight totally. A vampire falls deeply and truly in love with a human. He does not mean or want to hurt her in any way.he&#039;s a vampire he is stronger than her. He is always gentle with her! and yes he does protect her.they both are very much in love. remember this is a movie, a great one at that! he does think of her as an equal. he just doesn&#039;t want her to get injured.Please leave Twilight and the real fans alone!  this movie is supposed to be this way!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok I love twilight totally. A vampire falls deeply and truly in love with a human. He does not mean or want to hurt her in any way.he&#8217;s a vampire he is stronger than her. He is always gentle with her! and yes he does protect her.they both are very much in love. remember this is a movie, a great one at that! he does think of her as an equal. he just doesn&#8217;t want her to get injured.Please leave Twilight and the real fans alone!  this movie is supposed to be this way!</p>
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		<title>By: ZQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>ZQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 05:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Respectfully, I have to disagree with this. I won&#039;t go into it because to each their own and all, but you said he ceases his controlling behavior by Breaking Dawn. He still does a number of things in there that are rather alarming.

1.) When Bella goes to look up the book that Alice left for her, she asks for about five minutes to be inside their house alone. Edward gives her two. The place they live in is described as being rather small. I find it hard to believe Bella, now a well-controlled vampire by this point, would have been in much danger had he left her alone for the extra three minutes she requested. There&#039;s the other implication, that he couldn&#039;t stand to leave her alone that long, which is just as alarming because quite frankly, it&#039;s not healthy if a person can&#039;t go for five minutes without being next to someone or something.

2.) When Bella goes to get the forged documents and returns home, she outright admits that Edward will be breaking into her car later and reading her odometer to see if she&#039;s lying about where she went. Ignoring the fact that that is unnecessary and controlling, it&#039;s there for very little purpose. She&#039;s a vampire, so it&#039;s hardly like many things could hurt her. The Volturi have not yet arrived, so it&#039;s hardly like they could attack her while she&#039;s out. There&#039;s also really no reason for Edward to assume that Bella was up to anything. It was nearly Christmas, she said she was shopping, she SHOWED him what she bought, and he still was going to break into her car.

3.) When Bella finds out the Volturi are coming, she immediately asks for self-defense classes. This is a smart thing, since all we are told is that there will surely be a fight and the Volturi surely will be powerful and Bella is one of the vampires they will want to kidnap or capture. Edward spends all of the time she trains complaining about how he can&#039;t stand the thought of her in combat, even though everyone believes that combat will be unlikely and thus teaching her to fight will only help. At one point when she wants to make up for lost time and spend the night training with Emmett, Edward outright refuses to let her train. Yet again, there&#039;s very little reason. Okay, she spent the day out of the house. I personally would say that if a life and death situation is on the horizon, I could let my spouse out of my sight for one evening so they could up their chances of not dying later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Respectfully, I have to disagree with this. I won&#8217;t go into it because to each their own and all, but you said he ceases his controlling behavior by Breaking Dawn. He still does a number of things in there that are rather alarming.</p>
<p>1.) When Bella goes to look up the book that Alice left for her, she asks for about five minutes to be inside their house alone. Edward gives her two. The place they live in is described as being rather small. I find it hard to believe Bella, now a well-controlled vampire by this point, would have been in much danger had he left her alone for the extra three minutes she requested. There&#8217;s the other implication, that he couldn&#8217;t stand to leave her alone that long, which is just as alarming because quite frankly, it&#8217;s not healthy if a person can&#8217;t go for five minutes without being next to someone or something.</p>
<p>2.) When Bella goes to get the forged documents and returns home, she outright admits that Edward will be breaking into her car later and reading her odometer to see if she&#8217;s lying about where she went. Ignoring the fact that that is unnecessary and controlling, it&#8217;s there for very little purpose. She&#8217;s a vampire, so it&#8217;s hardly like many things could hurt her. The Volturi have not yet arrived, so it&#8217;s hardly like they could attack her while she&#8217;s out. There&#8217;s also really no reason for Edward to assume that Bella was up to anything. It was nearly Christmas, she said she was shopping, she SHOWED him what she bought, and he still was going to break into her car.</p>
<p>3.) When Bella finds out the Volturi are coming, she immediately asks for self-defense classes. This is a smart thing, since all we are told is that there will surely be a fight and the Volturi surely will be powerful and Bella is one of the vampires they will want to kidnap or capture. Edward spends all of the time she trains complaining about how he can&#8217;t stand the thought of her in combat, even though everyone believes that combat will be unlikely and thus teaching her to fight will only help. At one point when she wants to make up for lost time and spend the night training with Emmett, Edward outright refuses to let her train. Yet again, there&#8217;s very little reason. Okay, she spent the day out of the house. I personally would say that if a life and death situation is on the horizon, I could let my spouse out of my sight for one evening so they could up their chances of not dying later.</p>
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		<title>By: Victor Velazquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victor Velazquez</dc:creator>
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		<description>It just amazes me how Edward can&#039;t be classified as an controlling 

boyfriend even though there are plenty of times in the text where it is 

SHOWN, not told where he is being a controlling jerk. Never is it SHOWN 

where he is being nice. It is only told to us. I&#039;ll give examples of him being a 

controlling boyfriend after I give a definition to the phrase. 

The Top Ten Sides of a Controlling Boyfriend

He&#039;s Always By Your Side

&#039;If you are in a relationship where it seems that you have no time to 

yourself, chances are you have a controlling boyfriend. He never wants 

you to go anywhere without him. There is no more “girls night out” for you 

and your friends, unless he is with you. Doesn’t sound like a good time.&quot;

While Edward does &#039;give&#039; Bella time to hang out with Angela and Jessica 

he shouldn&#039;t have to &#039;give&#039; her time to spend with her friends. He never lets 

her make her own decisions unless someone from his family prevents him 

from controlling her.

And whenever she is having &#039;fun&#039; with her friends he&#039;s always around the 

corner with his Volvo to save her from the &#039;dirty rapists&#039; who want to hurt 

her. (Chapter 8 of Twilight)

Now it takes Alice and Jasper to prevent him from controlling her opinion in 

the end of Twilight. It takes Emmet and Alice to prevent him from sucking 

her blood in the beginning of the book. It takes Rosalie to prevent him from 

forcefully giving her an abortion in Breaking Dawn. 

See something wrong with this trend?

You Do What He Likes

&quot;When you do go out, it is to an event that HE chooses. You may not feel 

like going to a movie, but it is what he wants to do, for example. Also, his 

turning down an offer to do what you would like is a key sign that he is not 

flexible. It often leaves the impression that he does not care about your 

interests. He may, or may not, but he is not supportive either way.&quot;

When Bella is in Port Angeles for the first time and he &#039;saves&#039; her he 

forces her to go to a restaurant even though she&#039;d been looking for a 

bookstore. This can pretty much sum up the whole conversation.

&quot;Drink,&quot; he ordered.

I sipped at my soda obediently

She always does what he wants her to do. Forging her signature to go to 

Dartmouth, the Prom, the Wedding. These are things that she didn&#039;t want 

but he forced them upon her. Even if it is logical to want some of these 

things it doesn&#039;t excuse the fact that he forced them onto her. If a child 

agreed to being abused does that make it right for the abuser to abuse 

them? No.

You Do Things For Him

“Honey, go pick up some soda for me.” sounds like a genuine request for 

assistance. If your boyfriend is constantly asking you to run errands, 

without including you as the benefactor, this is another sign of the need to 

feel in control. Instead of “…pick up some soda for me.”, the request 

should be, “We’re out of soda. Can you go pick some up, please?”. Can 

you see the difference? WE are in need of soda, simply.&quot;

Very honestly I see nothing that he gives Bella in return for &#039;all the things&#039; 

she does for him. Her life would have been much easier without him 

returing again and again to give her another dose of the dazzle. 

No Manners

&quot;In the previous example, the “please” was left out intentionally. Your 

boyfriend will not be polite. He will not say “thank you”, “you’re welcome”, 

“please” or even “excuse me” to you. It is because he is expecting you to 

comply with his requests. He also feels as if you should be thanking him 

for allowing you to do things for him.&quot;

Whenever Edward does say please it&#039;s not polite. He doesn&#039;t have 

manners. He&#039;s not a gentleman. Honestly what sort of gentleman does this 

to a lady?

&quot;His long hands unexpectedly gripped my waist, and his foot pushed mine 

off the gas pedal. He pulled me across his lap, wrenching my hands free 

of the wheel, and suddenly he was in the driver&#039;s seat. The truck
didn&#039;t swerve an inch.&quot;

&quot;We were near the parking lot now. I veered left, toward my truck. 

Something caught my jacket, yankingme back.

&quot;Where do you think you&#039;re going?&quot; he asked, outraged. He was gripping a 

fistful of my jacket in one hand.

I was confused. &quot;I&#039;m going home.&quot;

&quot;Didn&#039;t you hear me promise to take you safely home? Do you think I&#039;m 

going to let you drive in your condition?&quot; His voice was still indignant.

&quot;What condition? And what about my truck?&quot; I complained.

&quot;I&#039;ll have Alice drop it off after school.&quot; He was towing me toward his car 

now, pulling me by my jacket.It was all I could do to keep from falling 

backward. He&#039;d probably just drag me along anyway if I did.

&quot;Let go!&quot; I insisted. He ignored me. I staggered along sideways across the 

wet sidewalk until we reached the Volvo. Then he finally freed me — I 

stumbled against the passenger door.&quot;

I hope I&#039;m not the only one seeing things wrong with this situation.


Questions, Questions

&quot;When you can finally break through the chains, and find some free time 

for yourself, be prepared:  your controlling boyfriend will interrogate you 

when you return. Putting himself in a “father figure” position will install 

more of a sense of control. Treating you like a child that went to the mall, 

prior to doing her homework, is the kind of humiliation in you he is trying to 

achieve.&quot;
 
Does anything need to be said about Edward&#039;s condescending attitude to 

her all of the time? And the countless probe sessions that he puts her 

through because he is unable to read her mind. 

No Questions, No Answers

&quot;Unlike the aforementioned subject, your boyfriend will come and go as he 

pleases, without answering to anyone – especially to you. If you try to 

question his whereabouts or activities, he will become defensive. The 

subject will immediately transfer from your asking, “where were you?” to 

his comeback remark about how you nag him too much, or something 

similar to that effect. He will ignore answering the question, and make you 

feel guilty for asking it. This is in hope that you will not do it again.&quot;

Edward is always denying her answers or asking a question in return to 

her questions. He fits the description quite accurately.

He’s Always Right

&quot;In an argument with a controlling personality, it is very difficult for him to 

accept defeat. The controlling boyfriend will get more defensive, change 

the subject, or bring up a past occurrence, when he was, indeed, correct, 

in order to prove his point with the issue at hand. He may not always be 

right, completely, but he is never wrong.&quot;

YES! Edward is always right no matter what in all of him and Bella&#039;s 

&#039;disagreements&#039;. She always bends to his will like a rubber band.

Can’t Buy Me Love

&quot;Fools gold has been around for centuries. However, a fool AND his gold 

have special meaning to the controlling boyfriend. He will buy you nice 

jewelry, take you to expensive restaurants and maybe even offer to pay a 

debt of yours. He will say it is because he loves you. Not true. He needs to 

feel superior to you. You now owe him, in his mind. Who is the fool? To 

him, you are.&quot;

YES! YES! AND YES! Edward is always buying her expensive gifts and 

giving her needless expensive things that won&#039;t do her any good. She 

hates having money squandered on her yet he does it anyway and allows 

his family to do so not realizing that it adds to her inferiority complex. 

You’re Worthless

&quot;Belittling your self-confidence can be have very serious consequences. 

Making you feel as if you are worthless without him, the controlling 

boyfriend will prey on times that you may be stressed the most. If you 

have just lost a job, or if you are experiencing normal hormonal reactions, 

this is the time he will strike. He wants you to feel as if life is not worth 

living without him. It’s hard to believe, but his confidence level is actually 

lower than yours.&quot;

Bingo. Do I even need to give an example of all the times Edward says that 

he can kill her with his big toe? This is not neccesary. It is also wrong for 

him to tell her to stay away from him and then say that he&#039;ll see her later in 

class. What sort of thing is that to say to someone?

No Means No

&quot;This is the most upsetting trait that a controlling boyfriend can display. If 

he forces you to do things, against your will, he is not in love with you. 

Whether it is going to a baseball game, when you hate outdoor stadiums, 

or, even more harsh an act, makes you perform sexually against your will, 

he is NOT in love with you. Not showing you the courtesy to respect your 

wishes is not a behavior that goes away. This will continue as an abusive 

relationship, where you will be treated as an object, instead of a person.&quot;

Bullseye! This is the trait that Edward displays the most. Whether it&#039;s 

forbidding her to see her friends by taking the motor out of her truck or 

forcing her to eat when she insists that she isn&#039;t hungry. This is controlling 

behavior and does not need to continue.

1.Attached At The Hip – many controlling boyfriends behaviour is sparked 

by their inability to trust. Someone who has to control another always 

needs to be around to watch what they are doing and to ensure that their 

partner is only having a “good time” when he is around. If you are in a 

relationship with someone who insists on always being there and not 

allowing you any time to yourself, then you are a victim of a controlling 

boyfriend.

2.On His Terms – if your boyfriend is always making plans without 

including you in the decision making process, then this is a major sign that 

he has controlling habits. If he is constantly turning down invites and 

opportunities to attend events that you have interest in and you always 

seem to be attending events he has interest in, then chances are you have 

a controlling boyfriend.


3.Interrogation – a controlling boyfriend is a great fan of interrogation. If 

you do find a moment to yourself, spend some time with the girls or arrive 

home a little later than expected, prepare to be asked a lot of questions as 

to where you were, who you were talking to and why you took so much 

longer than the average person would. Be careful of being in this type of 

relationship which usually makes you feel humiliated and as if you are in 

fact in the wrong.

4.Always Right – regardless of the situation or argument, the controlling 

boyfriend will never admit to being wrong. This is often also linked to 

breaking the partner down by making them believe that they are always 

wrong or doing something wrong. When in this type of relationship, the 

controlling boyfriend will swiftly change the subject to all the things you 

may do wrong or have done wrong in the past.

5.Confidence Battering – the controlling boyfriend will be well aware of 

when you are feeling stressed and a little down. He will use this as an 

opportunity to “save the day” or sometimes even ridicule you or make you 

feel silly for even believing you could do something successfully on your 

own. This can range from social situations to work decisions that you may 

have made. Breaking down ones confidence can have serious and long 

lasting effects.

6.Snooping – a controlling boyfriend is usually a professional snoop. He 

can often be found looking through your emails, sneaking a few peaks at 

your cell phone messages and even reading your mail. This type of 

behaviour in a relationship shows his need to control and always be in the 

know, along with a lack of trust.

7.Isolation - when you find yourself in a relationship with a controlling 

boyfriend, you will find that he will try and isolate you from your family and 

friends. This will start usually with general disinterest in them to obvious 

dislike and will sometimes even try to convince you that they do not love 

you or care for you and are possibly even out to get you.

Those are even more signs for you to decode and bash.

It such come as a red flag for you when Edwards name flashes across 

the screen whenever you type the phrase &#039;controlling boyfriend&#039; into 

google. 

There is nothing loving about his behavior.

While many say that it&#039;s ok because it&#039;s his first relationship and he doesn&#039;t 

know how to react that still doesn&#039;t make it ok.

Are all boys controlling in their first relationships? No.

Harry Potter was not abusive to Cho Chang. In fact it could be considered 

the exact opposite.

Bella has battered woman syndrome and there is no way to say 

otherwise.

Let&#039;s see some symptoms of an abused woman shall we?

&quot;DENIAL
	
The woman refuses to admit--even to herself--that she has been beaten 

or that there is a &quot;problem&quot; in her marriage. She may call each incident an 

&quot;accident&quot;. She offers excuses for her husband&#039;s violence and each time 

firmly believes it will never happen again.

GUILT
	
She now acknowledges there is a problem, but considers herself 

responsible for it. She &quot;deserves&quot; to be beaten, she feels, because she 

has defects in her character and is not living up to her husband&#039;s 

expectations.

ENLIGHTENMENT
 
The woman no longer assumes responsibility for her husband&#039;s abusive 

treatment, recognizing that no one &quot;deserves&quot; to be beaten. She is still 

committed to her marriage, though, and stays with her husband, hoping 

they can work things out.

RESPONSIBILITY
	
Accepting the fact that her husband will not, or can not, stop his violent 

behavior, the battered woman decides she will no longer submit to it and 

starts a new life.&quot;

There&#039;s one problem with this though. Bella hasn&#039;t moved on to the third 

stage. And she never will.

Here on some warning signs that Charlie and any other responsible adult 

should have picked up in their relationship ages before they got married.

&quot;The abused woman:

* shows guilt, ambivalence, and fear over living conditions.
* feels isolated and untrusting of others, even though she may be involved 

in the community.
* is emotionally and economically dependent.
* has a poor self-concept (this may not have been true BEFORE the 

relationship).
* has observed other women in her family being abused or may have been 

abused as a child.
* feels angry, embarrassed, and ashamed.
* is fearful of being insane.
* has learned to feel helpless and feels powerless.
* has unexplained injuries that may go untreated.

The abusive man:

* shows extreme jealousy and wants to keep the woman isolated.
* has an inability to cope with stress and shows a lack of impulse control. 

(This may not necessarily appear outside the home)
* shows severe mood swings.
* may have a history of abuse in his own family and may have been 

abusive in courtship.
* presents a history of personal and/or family discord; unemployment, 

cruelty to animals, abuse of alcohol or other substances, and other 

unexplained behavior.&quot;

Edward might not be abusive, but if he wasn&#039;t sure that he&#039;d kill her by 

smacking her around I&#039;m sure he would be. In all actuality he does cause 

her phyiscal harm on more than one occasion.

Was it neccasary to throw her out of the way before lunging onto Jasper?

Was it necessary to drag her around by her coat into his Volvo?

I won&#039;t even mention Breaking Dawn.

 12 Ways To Tell Whether Your Partner
May Turn Into An Abuser

   1. Heavy drinking or drug abuse (especially if he uses substances as an 

excuse for what he does: &quot;The alcohol made me do it.&quot;)

   2. Abuse during the courtship period is a guarantee of further abuse that 

will become more frequent and severe. Don&#039;t marry him with the belief that 

&quot;I can change him.&quot; You won&#039;t.

   3. Morbid jealousy. This may be a bit flattering at first, but will be a curse 

later on. You will never convince him that you are innocent of his 

accusations.

   4. Past child abuse and/or witness of marital violence. This happens in 

some cases. Children learn what they live. Boys tend to copy their fathers. 

Abused children discipline their own children as they were taught. He may 

be a &quot;violence carrier&quot;.

   5. Inability to handle frustration. If he blows up and explodes at small 

things, and reacts with a tantrum over minor things, he may act out 

frustration with violence in a marriage. How he deals with anger is the 

key.

   6. A violent temper. This speaks for itself. If you feel fear when he acts 

out his anger, that fear is a warning signal. Listen to it!
   7. Cruelty to animals, abuse and mistreatment of pets, great enjoyment of 

hunting for the sake of killing animals could help you to face this question: 

What makes you know he will treat you any differently?

   8. Preoccupation with weapons. They are an extension of self. A 

person is what she/he lives. If he ever &quot;playfully&quot; points a gun at you or 

ever gestures at you with another weapon, what could happen if he 

became very angry with you?

   9. Mental illness. A person with an unsound mind or without any sense 

of moral responsibility or guilt may not be in control of his actions. Does he 

act in ways that you feel are abnormal or strange?

  10. A poor self-image; insecurity about his own masculinity. If he feels 

compulsive about always being &quot;one up&quot; and dominating and he lives out a 

macho role at all times, you will be subject to his control and possibly 

treated like one of his possessions. He may feel he has the right to treat 

you like his property, to do as he pleases.

  11. A pattern of blaming others, particularly his wife, for his problems. If 

he never accepts his faults and responsibilities when things go wrong, be 

ready to be blamed for everything.

  12. Acceptance of violence as an appropriate problem-solving method. 

Do you want a man who talks out or acts out his anger?

Edward fits more than 6 of these characteristics. Is that the sign of the 

perfect boyfriend involved in a healthy relationship? No.

I understand that your a brunette and can picture yourself as Bella 

because others have &#039;known what&#039;s best for you&#039;.

But please don&#039;t say that Edward is nice, even when he&#039;s not, and that he 

is a good boyfriend. He is a controlling boyfriend and these need to be 

identified so that Generation Y doesn&#039;t end up screwed up by these 

books. As much as many people like to disagree, Fiction Influences Most 

Teenagers Lives. 

And by saying that a controlling, potentially abusive, boyfriend is a good 

thing for a teenage girl you are setting many bad examples for teens.

As for your mother the psychologist that supposedly anayzed Bella and 

Edward&#039;s relationship, maybe you need to check her degree because if 

she is indeed a good phsychologist why do you claim to have been a 

recluse in your youth?

Just because Bella accepts it, that doesn&#039;t make it right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It just amazes me how Edward can&#8217;t be classified as an controlling </p>
<p>boyfriend even though there are plenty of times in the text where it is </p>
<p>SHOWN, not told where he is being a controlling jerk. Never is it SHOWN </p>
<p>where he is being nice. It is only told to us. I&#8217;ll give examples of him being a </p>
<p>controlling boyfriend after I give a definition to the phrase. </p>
<p>The Top Ten Sides of a Controlling Boyfriend</p>
<p>He&#8217;s Always By Your Side</p>
<p>&#8216;If you are in a relationship where it seems that you have no time to </p>
<p>yourself, chances are you have a controlling boyfriend. He never wants </p>
<p>you to go anywhere without him. There is no more “girls night out” for you </p>
<p>and your friends, unless he is with you. Doesn’t sound like a good time.&#8221;</p>
<p>While Edward does &#8216;give&#8217; Bella time to hang out with Angela and Jessica </p>
<p>he shouldn&#8217;t have to &#8216;give&#8217; her time to spend with her friends. He never lets </p>
<p>her make her own decisions unless someone from his family prevents him </p>
<p>from controlling her.</p>
<p>And whenever she is having &#8216;fun&#8217; with her friends he&#8217;s always around the </p>
<p>corner with his Volvo to save her from the &#8216;dirty rapists&#8217; who want to hurt </p>
<p>her. (Chapter 8 of Twilight)</p>
<p>Now it takes Alice and Jasper to prevent him from controlling her opinion in </p>
<p>the end of Twilight. It takes Emmet and Alice to prevent him from sucking </p>
<p>her blood in the beginning of the book. It takes Rosalie to prevent him from </p>
<p>forcefully giving her an abortion in Breaking Dawn. </p>
<p>See something wrong with this trend?</p>
<p>You Do What He Likes</p>
<p>&#8220;When you do go out, it is to an event that HE chooses. You may not feel </p>
<p>like going to a movie, but it is what he wants to do, for example. Also, his </p>
<p>turning down an offer to do what you would like is a key sign that he is not </p>
<p>flexible. It often leaves the impression that he does not care about your </p>
<p>interests. He may, or may not, but he is not supportive either way.&#8221;</p>
<p>When Bella is in Port Angeles for the first time and he &#8216;saves&#8217; her he </p>
<p>forces her to go to a restaurant even though she&#8217;d been looking for a </p>
<p>bookstore. This can pretty much sum up the whole conversation.</p>
<p>&#8220;Drink,&#8221; he ordered.</p>
<p>I sipped at my soda obediently</p>
<p>She always does what he wants her to do. Forging her signature to go to </p>
<p>Dartmouth, the Prom, the Wedding. These are things that she didn&#8217;t want </p>
<p>but he forced them upon her. Even if it is logical to want some of these </p>
<p>things it doesn&#8217;t excuse the fact that he forced them onto her. If a child </p>
<p>agreed to being abused does that make it right for the abuser to abuse </p>
<p>them? No.</p>
<p>You Do Things For Him</p>
<p>“Honey, go pick up some soda for me.” sounds like a genuine request for </p>
<p>assistance. If your boyfriend is constantly asking you to run errands, </p>
<p>without including you as the benefactor, this is another sign of the need to </p>
<p>feel in control. Instead of “…pick up some soda for me.”, the request </p>
<p>should be, “We’re out of soda. Can you go pick some up, please?”. Can </p>
<p>you see the difference? WE are in need of soda, simply.&#8221;</p>
<p>Very honestly I see nothing that he gives Bella in return for &#8216;all the things&#8217; </p>
<p>she does for him. Her life would have been much easier without him </p>
<p>returing again and again to give her another dose of the dazzle. </p>
<p>No Manners</p>
<p>&#8220;In the previous example, the “please” was left out intentionally. Your </p>
<p>boyfriend will not be polite. He will not say “thank you”, “you’re welcome”, </p>
<p>“please” or even “excuse me” to you. It is because he is expecting you to </p>
<p>comply with his requests. He also feels as if you should be thanking him </p>
<p>for allowing you to do things for him.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whenever Edward does say please it&#8217;s not polite. He doesn&#8217;t have </p>
<p>manners. He&#8217;s not a gentleman. Honestly what sort of gentleman does this </p>
<p>to a lady?</p>
<p>&#8220;His long hands unexpectedly gripped my waist, and his foot pushed mine </p>
<p>off the gas pedal. He pulled me across his lap, wrenching my hands free </p>
<p>of the wheel, and suddenly he was in the driver&#8217;s seat. The truck<br />
didn&#8217;t swerve an inch.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We were near the parking lot now. I veered left, toward my truck. </p>
<p>Something caught my jacket, yankingme back.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where do you think you&#8217;re going?&#8221; he asked, outraged. He was gripping a </p>
<p>fistful of my jacket in one hand.</p>
<p>I was confused. &#8220;I&#8217;m going home.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Didn&#8217;t you hear me promise to take you safely home? Do you think I&#8217;m </p>
<p>going to let you drive in your condition?&#8221; His voice was still indignant.</p>
<p>&#8220;What condition? And what about my truck?&#8221; I complained.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ll have Alice drop it off after school.&#8221; He was towing me toward his car </p>
<p>now, pulling me by my jacket.It was all I could do to keep from falling </p>
<p>backward. He&#8217;d probably just drag me along anyway if I did.</p>
<p>&#8220;Let go!&#8221; I insisted. He ignored me. I staggered along sideways across the </p>
<p>wet sidewalk until we reached the Volvo. Then he finally freed me — I </p>
<p>stumbled against the passenger door.&#8221;</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;m not the only one seeing things wrong with this situation.</p>
<p>Questions, Questions</p>
<p>&#8220;When you can finally break through the chains, and find some free time </p>
<p>for yourself, be prepared:  your controlling boyfriend will interrogate you </p>
<p>when you return. Putting himself in a “father figure” position will install </p>
<p>more of a sense of control. Treating you like a child that went to the mall, </p>
<p>prior to doing her homework, is the kind of humiliation in you he is trying to </p>
<p>achieve.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does anything need to be said about Edward&#8217;s condescending attitude to </p>
<p>her all of the time? And the countless probe sessions that he puts her </p>
<p>through because he is unable to read her mind. </p>
<p>No Questions, No Answers</p>
<p>&#8220;Unlike the aforementioned subject, your boyfriend will come and go as he </p>
<p>pleases, without answering to anyone – especially to you. If you try to </p>
<p>question his whereabouts or activities, he will become defensive. The </p>
<p>subject will immediately transfer from your asking, “where were you?” to </p>
<p>his comeback remark about how you nag him too much, or something </p>
<p>similar to that effect. He will ignore answering the question, and make you </p>
<p>feel guilty for asking it. This is in hope that you will not do it again.&#8221;</p>
<p>Edward is always denying her answers or asking a question in return to </p>
<p>her questions. He fits the description quite accurately.</p>
<p>He’s Always Right</p>
<p>&#8220;In an argument with a controlling personality, it is very difficult for him to </p>
<p>accept defeat. The controlling boyfriend will get more defensive, change </p>
<p>the subject, or bring up a past occurrence, when he was, indeed, correct, </p>
<p>in order to prove his point with the issue at hand. He may not always be </p>
<p>right, completely, but he is never wrong.&#8221;</p>
<p>YES! Edward is always right no matter what in all of him and Bella&#8217;s </p>
<p>&#8216;disagreements&#8217;. She always bends to his will like a rubber band.</p>
<p>Can’t Buy Me Love</p>
<p>&#8220;Fools gold has been around for centuries. However, a fool AND his gold </p>
<p>have special meaning to the controlling boyfriend. He will buy you nice </p>
<p>jewelry, take you to expensive restaurants and maybe even offer to pay a </p>
<p>debt of yours. He will say it is because he loves you. Not true. He needs to </p>
<p>feel superior to you. You now owe him, in his mind. Who is the fool? To </p>
<p>him, you are.&#8221;</p>
<p>YES! YES! AND YES! Edward is always buying her expensive gifts and </p>
<p>giving her needless expensive things that won&#8217;t do her any good. She </p>
<p>hates having money squandered on her yet he does it anyway and allows </p>
<p>his family to do so not realizing that it adds to her inferiority complex. </p>
<p>You’re Worthless</p>
<p>&#8220;Belittling your self-confidence can be have very serious consequences. </p>
<p>Making you feel as if you are worthless without him, the controlling </p>
<p>boyfriend will prey on times that you may be stressed the most. If you </p>
<p>have just lost a job, or if you are experiencing normal hormonal reactions, </p>
<p>this is the time he will strike. He wants you to feel as if life is not worth </p>
<p>living without him. It’s hard to believe, but his confidence level is actually </p>
<p>lower than yours.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo. Do I even need to give an example of all the times Edward says that </p>
<p>he can kill her with his big toe? This is not neccesary. It is also wrong for </p>
<p>him to tell her to stay away from him and then say that he&#8217;ll see her later in </p>
<p>class. What sort of thing is that to say to someone?</p>
<p>No Means No</p>
<p>&#8220;This is the most upsetting trait that a controlling boyfriend can display. If </p>
<p>he forces you to do things, against your will, he is not in love with you. </p>
<p>Whether it is going to a baseball game, when you hate outdoor stadiums, </p>
<p>or, even more harsh an act, makes you perform sexually against your will, </p>
<p>he is NOT in love with you. Not showing you the courtesy to respect your </p>
<p>wishes is not a behavior that goes away. This will continue as an abusive </p>
<p>relationship, where you will be treated as an object, instead of a person.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bullseye! This is the trait that Edward displays the most. Whether it&#8217;s </p>
<p>forbidding her to see her friends by taking the motor out of her truck or </p>
<p>forcing her to eat when she insists that she isn&#8217;t hungry. This is controlling </p>
<p>behavior and does not need to continue.</p>
<p>1.Attached At The Hip – many controlling boyfriends behaviour is sparked </p>
<p>by their inability to trust. Someone who has to control another always </p>
<p>needs to be around to watch what they are doing and to ensure that their </p>
<p>partner is only having a “good time” when he is around. If you are in a </p>
<p>relationship with someone who insists on always being there and not </p>
<p>allowing you any time to yourself, then you are a victim of a controlling </p>
<p>boyfriend.</p>
<p>2.On His Terms – if your boyfriend is always making plans without </p>
<p>including you in the decision making process, then this is a major sign that </p>
<p>he has controlling habits. If he is constantly turning down invites and </p>
<p>opportunities to attend events that you have interest in and you always </p>
<p>seem to be attending events he has interest in, then chances are you have </p>
<p>a controlling boyfriend.</p>
<p>3.Interrogation – a controlling boyfriend is a great fan of interrogation. If </p>
<p>you do find a moment to yourself, spend some time with the girls or arrive </p>
<p>home a little later than expected, prepare to be asked a lot of questions as </p>
<p>to where you were, who you were talking to and why you took so much </p>
<p>longer than the average person would. Be careful of being in this type of </p>
<p>relationship which usually makes you feel humiliated and as if you are in </p>
<p>fact in the wrong.</p>
<p>4.Always Right – regardless of the situation or argument, the controlling </p>
<p>boyfriend will never admit to being wrong. This is often also linked to </p>
<p>breaking the partner down by making them believe that they are always </p>
<p>wrong or doing something wrong. When in this type of relationship, the </p>
<p>controlling boyfriend will swiftly change the subject to all the things you </p>
<p>may do wrong or have done wrong in the past.</p>
<p>5.Confidence Battering – the controlling boyfriend will be well aware of </p>
<p>when you are feeling stressed and a little down. He will use this as an </p>
<p>opportunity to “save the day” or sometimes even ridicule you or make you </p>
<p>feel silly for even believing you could do something successfully on your </p>
<p>own. This can range from social situations to work decisions that you may </p>
<p>have made. Breaking down ones confidence can have serious and long </p>
<p>lasting effects.</p>
<p>6.Snooping – a controlling boyfriend is usually a professional snoop. He </p>
<p>can often be found looking through your emails, sneaking a few peaks at </p>
<p>your cell phone messages and even reading your mail. This type of </p>
<p>behaviour in a relationship shows his need to control and always be in the </p>
<p>know, along with a lack of trust.</p>
<p>7.Isolation &#8211; when you find yourself in a relationship with a controlling </p>
<p>boyfriend, you will find that he will try and isolate you from your family and </p>
<p>friends. This will start usually with general disinterest in them to obvious </p>
<p>dislike and will sometimes even try to convince you that they do not love </p>
<p>you or care for you and are possibly even out to get you.</p>
<p>Those are even more signs for you to decode and bash.</p>
<p>It such come as a red flag for you when Edwards name flashes across </p>
<p>the screen whenever you type the phrase &#8216;controlling boyfriend&#8217; into </p>
<p>google. </p>
<p>There is nothing loving about his behavior.</p>
<p>While many say that it&#8217;s ok because it&#8217;s his first relationship and he doesn&#8217;t </p>
<p>know how to react that still doesn&#8217;t make it ok.</p>
<p>Are all boys controlling in their first relationships? No.</p>
<p>Harry Potter was not abusive to Cho Chang. In fact it could be considered </p>
<p>the exact opposite.</p>
<p>Bella has battered woman syndrome and there is no way to say </p>
<p>otherwise.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see some symptoms of an abused woman shall we?</p>
<p>&#8220;DENIAL</p>
<p>The woman refuses to admit&#8211;even to herself&#8211;that she has been beaten </p>
<p>or that there is a &#8220;problem&#8221; in her marriage. She may call each incident an </p>
<p>&#8220;accident&#8221;. She offers excuses for her husband&#8217;s violence and each time </p>
<p>firmly believes it will never happen again.</p>
<p>GUILT</p>
<p>She now acknowledges there is a problem, but considers herself </p>
<p>responsible for it. She &#8220;deserves&#8221; to be beaten, she feels, because she </p>
<p>has defects in her character and is not living up to her husband&#8217;s </p>
<p>expectations.</p>
<p>ENLIGHTENMENT</p>
<p>The woman no longer assumes responsibility for her husband&#8217;s abusive </p>
<p>treatment, recognizing that no one &#8220;deserves&#8221; to be beaten. She is still </p>
<p>committed to her marriage, though, and stays with her husband, hoping </p>
<p>they can work things out.</p>
<p>RESPONSIBILITY</p>
<p>Accepting the fact that her husband will not, or can not, stop his violent </p>
<p>behavior, the battered woman decides she will no longer submit to it and </p>
<p>starts a new life.&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s one problem with this though. Bella hasn&#8217;t moved on to the third </p>
<p>stage. And she never will.</p>
<p>Here on some warning signs that Charlie and any other responsible adult </p>
<p>should have picked up in their relationship ages before they got married.</p>
<p>&#8220;The abused woman:</p>
<p>* shows guilt, ambivalence, and fear over living conditions.<br />
* feels isolated and untrusting of others, even though she may be involved </p>
<p>in the community.<br />
* is emotionally and economically dependent.<br />
* has a poor self-concept (this may not have been true BEFORE the </p>
<p>relationship).<br />
* has observed other women in her family being abused or may have been </p>
<p>abused as a child.<br />
* feels angry, embarrassed, and ashamed.<br />
* is fearful of being insane.<br />
* has learned to feel helpless and feels powerless.<br />
* has unexplained injuries that may go untreated.</p>
<p>The abusive man:</p>
<p>* shows extreme jealousy and wants to keep the woman isolated.<br />
* has an inability to cope with stress and shows a lack of impulse control. </p>
<p>(This may not necessarily appear outside the home)<br />
* shows severe mood swings.<br />
* may have a history of abuse in his own family and may have been </p>
<p>abusive in courtship.<br />
* presents a history of personal and/or family discord; unemployment, </p>
<p>cruelty to animals, abuse of alcohol or other substances, and other </p>
<p>unexplained behavior.&#8221;</p>
<p>Edward might not be abusive, but if he wasn&#8217;t sure that he&#8217;d kill her by </p>
<p>smacking her around I&#8217;m sure he would be. In all actuality he does cause </p>
<p>her phyiscal harm on more than one occasion.</p>
<p>Was it neccasary to throw her out of the way before lunging onto Jasper?</p>
<p>Was it necessary to drag her around by her coat into his Volvo?</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t even mention Breaking Dawn.</p>
<p> 12 Ways To Tell Whether Your Partner<br />
May Turn Into An Abuser</p>
<p>   1. Heavy drinking or drug abuse (especially if he uses substances as an </p>
<p>excuse for what he does: &#8220;The alcohol made me do it.&#8221;)</p>
<p>   2. Abuse during the courtship period is a guarantee of further abuse that </p>
<p>will become more frequent and severe. Don&#8217;t marry him with the belief that </p>
<p>&#8220;I can change him.&#8221; You won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>   3. Morbid jealousy. This may be a bit flattering at first, but will be a curse </p>
<p>later on. You will never convince him that you are innocent of his </p>
<p>accusations.</p>
<p>   4. Past child abuse and/or witness of marital violence. This happens in </p>
<p>some cases. Children learn what they live. Boys tend to copy their fathers. </p>
<p>Abused children discipline their own children as they were taught. He may </p>
<p>be a &#8220;violence carrier&#8221;.</p>
<p>   5. Inability to handle frustration. If he blows up and explodes at small </p>
<p>things, and reacts with a tantrum over minor things, he may act out </p>
<p>frustration with violence in a marriage. How he deals with anger is the </p>
<p>key.</p>
<p>   6. A violent temper. This speaks for itself. If you feel fear when he acts </p>
<p>out his anger, that fear is a warning signal. Listen to it!<br />
   7. Cruelty to animals, abuse and mistreatment of pets, great enjoyment of </p>
<p>hunting for the sake of killing animals could help you to face this question: </p>
<p>What makes you know he will treat you any differently?</p>
<p>   8. Preoccupation with weapons. They are an extension of self. A </p>
<p>person is what she/he lives. If he ever &#8220;playfully&#8221; points a gun at you or </p>
<p>ever gestures at you with another weapon, what could happen if he </p>
<p>became very angry with you?</p>
<p>   9. Mental illness. A person with an unsound mind or without any sense </p>
<p>of moral responsibility or guilt may not be in control of his actions. Does he </p>
<p>act in ways that you feel are abnormal or strange?</p>
<p>  10. A poor self-image; insecurity about his own masculinity. If he feels </p>
<p>compulsive about always being &#8220;one up&#8221; and dominating and he lives out a </p>
<p>macho role at all times, you will be subject to his control and possibly </p>
<p>treated like one of his possessions. He may feel he has the right to treat </p>
<p>you like his property, to do as he pleases.</p>
<p>  11. A pattern of blaming others, particularly his wife, for his problems. If </p>
<p>he never accepts his faults and responsibilities when things go wrong, be </p>
<p>ready to be blamed for everything.</p>
<p>  12. Acceptance of violence as an appropriate problem-solving method. </p>
<p>Do you want a man who talks out or acts out his anger?</p>
<p>Edward fits more than 6 of these characteristics. Is that the sign of the </p>
<p>perfect boyfriend involved in a healthy relationship? No.</p>
<p>I understand that your a brunette and can picture yourself as Bella </p>
<p>because others have &#8216;known what&#8217;s best for you&#8217;.</p>
<p>But please don&#8217;t say that Edward is nice, even when he&#8217;s not, and that he </p>
<p>is a good boyfriend. He is a controlling boyfriend and these need to be </p>
<p>identified so that Generation Y doesn&#8217;t end up screwed up by these </p>
<p>books. As much as many people like to disagree, Fiction Influences Most </p>
<p>Teenagers Lives. </p>
<p>And by saying that a controlling, potentially abusive, boyfriend is a good </p>
<p>thing for a teenage girl you are setting many bad examples for teens.</p>
<p>As for your mother the psychologist that supposedly anayzed Bella and </p>
<p>Edward&#8217;s relationship, maybe you need to check her degree because if </p>
<p>she is indeed a good phsychologist why do you claim to have been a </p>
<p>recluse in your youth?</p>
<p>Just because Bella accepts it, that doesn&#8217;t make it right!</p>
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